Can someone explain to me why people actually think God has anything to do with adoption?

Question

Can someone explain to me why people actually think God has anything to do with adoption?

Answer 1

I don't think that God has a damn thing to do with adoption or with any "plan" that exploits one woman so that another can have her way. What a crock to pin the blame on some higher power! It is exploitation, it is the more powerful preying upon the less, plain and simple.



One of the posters here said, "it makes sense if you are a strong believer. If not...it will sound silly," You pegged it, Sister, because that kind of convoluted bullshit didn't come from any Bible I ever read. God does NOT work backwards. He doesn't put babies in the wrong tummies, babies are not conceived in sin, they are conceived in Love, because, except in the case of rape, the act of sex is the highest form of love and God created it. Why would He create something so beautiful and so wonderful and then call it sin, and punish women and babies for partaking of it? That just makes ZERO sense!



What a convoluted Being these people must pray to!

Answer 2

God only has a hand in adoption if you are the one praying for a child. I've never heard of a woman praying to give away her kid or a child praying to loose their entire being.

Answer 3

Because people use God for their own selfish agendas.

They also interpret the Bible for their own agendas.



People who do this are usually narrow minded and uneducated.

Answer 4

Because people need something to believe in. The thing is, they don't realize that their train of thought has consequences. When they think "I just want to be a mom and start a family so I'm going to adopt"... they don't think about how the consequences of THEM being able to have a family will effect a Chinese mother halfway across the globe suffering from the OCP.



"i'm positive that God supports it b/c it's a way for us to help those children who's mothers cared nothing for them"



I'm going to break that myth. It has nothing to do with a mother not loving her child. Sorry, but that's not how adoption works. Believe it or not believe it, but that just isn't the truth in many cases.

Answer 5

God has nothing to do with adoption. Freud, yes. God, no. When I was little, I remember being mad at God because Jesus' mom was young and unmarried, and he went out of his way to make sure she got to keep him, but my mother was taken from me for the same reasons. Then I got a little older and realized that religion has nothing to do with God. If there is a God, he or she cannot possibly fit into a book. God designed babies to be dependent upon their mothers even after birth. God made no provision for infant adoption. Technology did that with the invention of infant formula. Maybe people should be thanking corporations and misguided psychiatrists for their bundles of joy instead of God. I mean, give credit where credit is due.

Answer 6

I was told as a child that god had a plan for me, and that he brought me to my aparents. I think the idea of that interference is one of the biggest reasons I turned my back on christianity. To say that their god would advocate treating women and children this way just rubs me the wrong way.

Answer 7

Dear LT,



People created adoption - especially as it is today! Adoption rarely occurs in nature without death as a factor.



Does God make mistakes? Does (s)he "put babies in the wrong tummys"? Puh-lease. I suppose it is easier for some to think that God makes good things happen, but would God make good things happen the way the adoption industry works? I cannot fathom a God being that greedy, underhanded or heartless. (Don't agencies remind you of other biblical characters though? Pharocees, Lucifer,the brothers of Joseph with the coat of many colors, Judas,... )



It does kind of amaze me also, how much religion gets tied to adoption and yet I have yet to find a VALID reason why. It seems almost hypocritical to me. Second guessing nature/God. Thanking God for joy at another's expense. comparing Jesus and Moses to modern adoption, etc. just don't make sense to me. Humans do these things to one another, not God. I don't get it either.



If God had something to do with adoption, it would only happen when necessary. (I think if there were are God, it would never be necessary.)



I think people are just intelligent animals who do try to do what we can in a crazy world. Nature is a balance and humans seem to only care when the balance gets too far off. JMHO.

Answer 8

Sadly, SOME people think that god wills things to happen. If that were true, it would be great....but either it doesn't happen or their deity is a complete a$$. No disrespect to Mrs. Johnson, but the fact that any god would allow you to be born to a woman who was addicted to drugs, the fact that he would allow you to be nearly stomped to death by your own mother says more about your deity than I care to know. If it was 'god's will' that you be with your adoptive family, why didn't god just put you there to start with? Why did he make your adoptive mother infertile? Where was 'god's will' when you were being beaten?

Unfortunately, this belief has caused more problems in this world than I care to count. By believing that it is 'god's will' that some people suffer, that some people die prematurely, that some people will experience horiffic, debilitating deaths, it allows you to ignore and dismiss the pain of others. 9 million children under the age of 5 died THIS YEAR from starvation. Is that 'god's will'?? What about the holocaust, Darfur, Rwanda, etc? If you buy into the 'god's will' bs, then it overwhelmingly says that this is what god wants to happen....this happens to make the person 'stronger in their faith'. The Christian god did this 'fun' thing in the book of Job. He decided that Job was a good, faithful follower....but tested him anyway. God wipes out Job's entire family. Job remains faithful. God REPLACES his family with a new one. And all is happy and wonderful. THAT is what this mindset teaches you as it relates to adoption. That you can simply replace family members with new ones and that god 'wills' it to happen....conveiniently...to the benefit of the person saying it.

Answer 9

God is nothing more than a trump card for those who wish to tip the scales.



quite honestly, i doubt that God has the free time to give a sh !t about someone's baby jones, especially when we have two wars, genocides and natrual disasters going on.

Answer 10

God gave us free will. Because of our free will we have taken it upon ourselves as a society to do what ever we see fit. Call it conspiracy theory if you like but all the towns where 90% of its members end up with some form of cancer or other illnesses (infertility) is not God's will in my eyes. It is a direct result of toxic dumping, high powered antennas, ground contamination, and what ever else WE deem necessary to advance as a society or cut costs at someone else's expense.



You may never have given your personal okay to put crap in the drinking water, erect a tower in your back yard, but it happened none the less, and God should not be handed the responsibility for it. It is a result of us not caring enough about others due to our own free will, which God did give us.

Answer 11

Hi Lt,



I don't believe God has anything to do with what humans do to each other. This would negate the whole "free-will" we have and if He started interfering with one thing then where would it stop?



I personally feel God is NOT in favour of today's style of adoption... you only need to see that from the Bible so if these nutters who have been coming in here lately really knew their Bible they wouldn't be in favour of adoption. I mean seriously, the main adoption story everyone goes on about from the Bible is Moses and in the end, he turned his back on his adoptive family and went back to his real family. People will use whatever they can to get what they want in the end even if that means bending the facts to suit their agenda.

Answer 12

Sometimes, when we are here on God's earth, we must make our own way here. What goes around, comes around.



I've been through terribly hard times in my life, losing a husband and a child after a fire a week after my 21st birthday. I've also had some wonderful, joyous times, and consider myself the luckiest, most blessed person on earth to have the world's best partner, 2 beautiful sons (one who happens to be adopted), and are hoping for more children. When I've done better, and been a better person, life gets better.



I have asked for signs from God to let me know he's there. Tonight, I was cleaning out some boxes, and found a Bible that I had received at birth with my name engraved on it. Somehow, it survived the fire that my husband and daughter didn't, and since then, it has survived another house fire. Perhaps that's a sign that God was there to protect me through all that, which he did.



My dad passed away 2 years ago today, and while I was sitting with him in the last few hours, he hadn't been able to speak. He said, "Mom's come to get me" and I never mentioned it to my sister and mom and we each told my aunt what had happened. When my adopted son was being born, I had gotten to the hospital, and a car that looked just like my dad's was parked in the spot closer to the door than me, and in my rush I heard the man say, "I've got to go see my new grandson." I turned around, and he wasn't there. the little girl we were expecting turned out to be a boy. Maybe it's my imagination, but I think there's too many people who've had experiences like that and that he was there.



In the adoption areas, Moses was left in the river to avoid being killed. He was adopted and later came to take the 10 commandments from God. Maybe God has a plan for everyone, and we just need to be the best we can to work in his world.



As a Christian, God is part of every decision. He is an important part of our lives, our culture, and our decisions. We are like clay in his hands, to mold. It's not just in the adoption factors, but every factor in life.

Answer 13

To those with deep spiritual views, God is everywhere. He's in the good, he's in the bad, he's in the indifferent. Since he is omnipotent and supreme, it only figures he has his hand in adoption.



I don't think anyone can explain why people hold religious views so tightly. It is unknown and unknowable.



I do not agree that religious people are less intelligent than others. They simply see the world through a different set of spectacles.

Answer 14

For some adoptees, the feel like God cheated them out of their family. For some others, they feel like God intervened to save them from a life that would otherwise not turn out so great. Infertile women feel like God led them to adoption to show them that infertility is not the end. B moms may feel God is punishing them for forcing their hand into placing their child for adoption while others believe God led them to a family who could give their baby what they know they cannot. I am a true believer in all things happen for a reason. All experiences, good and bad, make me who I am today.



Moses, anyone?

Answer 15

I'm also of the belief that God has nothing to do with adoption. If anything, God created women with the ability procreate and carry their child within their body to birth. I don't believe for a second that any kind of higher power would intentionally have a woman become a vessel or birthing machine to provide an infertile woman with a child.





If God or any higher power has a hand in the man-made concept of adoption, he/she would make sure every mother is provided with the means and support to take care of her child.

Answer 16

It really depends on if you believe in God or not. I do believe in God, But i personally feel he allowes us to choose are own paths in life. I don't think it is Gods will for a mother to give up her child, but i think God gave that mother the choice to do so and the strength for the mom to do what she felt she needed to at the time. As for the bad adoptions and foster care I don't know maybe God is judgeing our love if he gave us everything we ever wanted of coarse we would love him, but if he allows you to hurt and be abused and you still love him maybe that is how God finds out if its true love. Honestly you will need to see how you feel. If you think its cruel and God has nothing to do with it then I think thats just fine too. I really do wish the very best for you.

Answer 17

Hello Lt, I tried once to explain this to someone else and got tons of thumbs down, oh well, whoever is not ready to hear will not understand and that is fine. I love you all, including thumbs down.

God is love is the source of all good, and His Will is always the best for us and all creation, it is a big mistake to think that His Will is for us to suffer... totally contradictory to His nature, not possible.

We are spiritual beings living a human experience, in order to grow we have to experience a set of things both good and bad. We, however, choose to experience what is on our lives, free will, a beautiful gift He/She gave us. So there, you would think "who would choose to be left alone, to be sick, to be abused?" well many of us, but this is not to be mean with ourselves and many times is not done counsciously in this life but before we were born, this is to learn and grow, learn and forgive, learn and love, or pay some karma debts, if you feel compassion and forgiveness this time you are much better off, if you are not capable of abusing others, then you are better this time. You have grown, you have learned, at one point of your soul history you could have killed someone and felt nothing, you wouldn't do it now, you are a better person and that only you learned by suffering the other side of the story.

Keep on learning, forgiving and loving yourself and others.

Answer 18

What you are asking is a question that theology scholars have been asking for centuries. "Why do bad things happen to good people" is the question at the crux of it.

While studying theology from a non-religious university, different theories were debated back and forth and were on going for all four years.

Here were the three main theories:



God is all powerful, all knowing and can do what he wants (therefore is he just mean? Making children suffer abuse, people suffer starvation, rape, horrible deaths? Would he not at least intervene for the most innocent?)



God is all knowing, but not all powerful. (He cannot interrupt what happens here on earth and therefore can not intervene. However this goes against all religious documentation past down over time)



God is all powerful and all knowing but gave us free will to create the good and the bad and the ugly (This is simply the deal of our creation. Had the original sin not taken place, there would be no suffering and therefore it is all our fault anyway.)



There are many more theories. These are just a few of the major ones.



As for how this relates to adoption:

Some people with a strong sense of their own faith believe that every moment of their lives has been planned out by God. That whatever happens is what God wants for them, and that God teaches us lessons through many means, including trials and heart ache. This is called Predestination. So an example of this is

"God teaches me through infertility how to accept what I cannot change and teaches the pregnant woman something through her loss as well, such as "keep your legs closed before marriage."

They can justify all the pain in the world as a lesson of some sort.

I personally have a hard time with this mindset and I am a christian myself.

One of the most frustrating ideas for me is when I hear that God does something horrible, such as allowing me to be raped so I could help others. For Frick-sake! So then why did God allow the other person to be raped that I am now helping? So they could help the next victim???? So FRUSTRATING. It is not logical!

Answer 19

Because many people use "god" to explain things that they cannot understand, they use "god" as an excuse to say that things are "meant to be" or "his will" when things go a certain way. I obviously do not believe in "god". I think that if there was a "god", he (or she) would have much better things to do than decide the placement of babies who are up for adoption. You'd think he'd (she'd) be more concerned with the babies who had no chance to make it.



If you truly believe in "god", that's fine, but it really drives me crazy when I hear it come up in terms of adoption. I don't believe that anyone would choose for my first mother to suffer so that my adoptive parents could have a child. I don't think that a deity would muck around in something that causes so much pain in families and hearts around the world. I think if "god" truly existed, and if he were that concerned with adoption, it wouldn't be corrupt. "All loving" and "agape" and all those nice phrases...

Answer 20

It's really kind of simple, really, but you have to believe in the Word of God to understand it. God has a plan for each of our lives BUT he gave us free will to do right or wrong. It's our own free will that messes us up. Look at Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. God loved them very much but THEY messed up--they disobeyed God and there were consequences for their actions--SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES.



God says that sex outside of marriage is a sin. A young woman gets pregnant (sex--free will) and doesn't want a child for whatever reasons were important to HER. God loves her very much BUT there are consequences for her actions. She looks at her options, may pray about it, and chooses a course of action (free will). It is not a pleasant choice, she doesn't want to be in this predicament, but she IS and she has choices to make. A couple who has lots of love for a child who needs a home and WANTS to adopt a child prays for a child. All things happen in God's timing. It's all about obedience and accepting the consequences of God's commandments and believing that God's Word IS GOD'S WORD.

Faith is believing what you can't see or understand. It is believing because it is God's Word. Like I said, you have to be a believer to understand it.

Answer 21

I agree with Linny G. There are people who inappropriately bring God into all kinds of situations. These are often uneducated people. Last night I was watching "17 Kids and Counting" and the parents actually said "Evolution is not scientifically based"....Seriously???

Answer 22

Because some peopel actually believe that God is some Hairy Fairy that sits in the sky granting wishes all day long.



I know, crazy right?

Answer 23

I have searched the Bible for examples and found that the ones the religious adoption agencies give are specious when the scripture is taken in context. For instance, Moses wound up living in luxury, but being nurtured by his own mother, and, in the end, rejected his adopters for his own people.



Solomon's decision was to give the baby to the real mother rather than to the woman who wanted to claim him because the real mother was willing to surrender rather than see the infant killed.



Jesus was aware of His true parentage and never tried to act otherwise.



Though the fundamentalists say they can cite chapter and verse, they are doing what they most decry which is giving their own slant to scripture...interpreting for their own purposes.



In fact, and especially in the old Testament but also in the Christmas story ("...for Joseph was of the house of David..."), blood heritage is very important and is considered an integral part of a person's identity.



It has been said that even the Devil can quote scripture for his own purposes. This painful and heart-breaking practice called infant adoption looks like a devilish thing, to me.

Answer 24

As I usually say, If god wanted me to be left,



If god wanted me to be abandoned,



If god wanted me to have my nose, jaw, teeth, arm, fingers broken by one of HIS pastors,



Then 'god' isn't worth a prayer.



To the believers, god does everything for them, in their mind, the women deserve to loose their children., because they deserve to have them.



How anyone deserves someone else's child I'll never understand.



Bottom line, these people have a b%£%& for a god.

Answer 25

God does not cause suffering that is caused by Man kind, God also allows free will. Mrs. Johnson’s mother choose to take drugs while with child, she also choose to try and kill her child.



I am positive that God has nothing against adoption when it is done for the right reasons. Being that the child, baby, teen truly needs a home and parent(s). God might wish that a child could stay with their natural family (as long as it is save for the child) but in this sin invested world that is not always an option.



I do think that God wanted me to be in the family I was adopted into since my Nmother was in no shape form to care for me , nor had any support from her family so staying with her was out of the question. Even more so that I was born in the south they were often very adamant that black and bi-racial or any mixed race child with black ancestry be placed with a black adoptive family. My social worker at the time even said my family had 0 chance of adopting me and that they would have to “kidnap” me if they wanted to keep me. This never and still makes no sense to me seeing that my biological mother was a white woman.



However by the will of God I guess some could say I (a bi-racial child)was adopted by my white foster family. My mother says she and other family (Grandma, Aunt, Uncles etc) prayed daily that I would stay with them or if not that I would at least be placed in a good family.



When Christ returns he will rule the earth for 1000 years. There will no longer be need for adoption in the millennium Kingdome, people will not be infertile because everything will be perfect and the world will be at peace. People will also have long lifespans (living up to possible 1000 years) no infant will ever die shortly after birth or in the womb. The only cause of death will be old age or that the 1000 year reign has ended but that is just the time when God will create a new heaven and earth and everyone will be judged at the white throne of God. Though there will be no need for adoption all people will be family regardless if they are bio related or not, we will all be adopted children of God and adopted siblings of Jesus. You will have villages raising children.

Answer 26

you need to look at this way. God knows what is in our heart and knows what will happen before it does. He also gave us free will. He knows that some people will abuse children and because of free will he can't do anything about it. But he does put an idea in others minds to adopt them and be their parents. Not everyone follows those thoughts because WE HAVE FREE WILL



I do think God is involved and I think he was involved in our foster placement and pending adoption

Answer 27

Hi LT



If you believe in all that - Gods record of looking after children is questionable to say the least.



Now I dont claim to be an expert but here are some of the facts and they are quite harsh.



1. He allowed his son to be murdered by some heathens

2. He whispered in Josephs ear that King Harold was going to kill all children under the age of two - why not whisper in every parents ear? Therefore saving a load of under twos - or smite the good old King with his smiting stick.

3. He killed a load under a flood only saving Noah grandchildren

4. He killed a load at Sodom

5. I am sure he did something nasty to the children of Egypt with sores and locus etc



They where his direct actions or things that he could have prevented.



His track record is not great and to be fair adoption whilst having some issues does sound a bit better than some of the above.



And before all my nasty emails start - If you are trying to save me you will be wasting your time. I will only read those that disprove the above. You will only be wasting your time.......

Answer 28

Well, just ask yourself how you come to this world and how god first give life to Adam & Eve to be in this world. Cause, of their sin.



God has nothing to do with adoption, is the people ourselves who do it. I remember in the Ten Commander there is one version know as Du should not kill. Adoption is a way for people with problem like too poor to raise a baby, rape case, having early sex life or even curses and playful about sex. Want to give it a try and later got pregnant before married.



In god words, Christian, Buddhist, Muslim and other religion, God always told us to be good but cause, of the world we live in with all the suffering, money, married, family and many other problems we face. Lead people or married couple to go for adoption without help from friends or family.



God give us life and later set up a family, than come the baby and as it go along just like you now to a mother in your future. Than to old age with all the grandchildren s and to sickness and turn to ash. And our spirit go back to where we come from. Hope my explanation were make you understand and have clear your mind.

Answer 29

I will try to explain my beliefs. I a member of the Metis community in Canada. I believe in balance and harmony.



I do not believe the Creator was involved in selecting my children for "me". I do not believe that my children were meant to go through their hardships that landed them in foster care. I cannot believe a God intervenes in that manner.



I do believe that we aer presented with opportunities by the Creator (God). I believe I was meant to move into a new city for a new job, to be offereed the placement of my children, and to raise them in a way that would do the Creator proud.



The children were not meant for me, and I was not meant for them, but due to obvious path choices, I have landed up in a position that I believe I am NOW meant to parent these children, who are in need of parents. I believe that my children are a blessing to us, and that we cherish that gift every day.



So i don''t believe their was ANY design in the beginning that our path was to be their parents, I would asusme if their was a path for my children it was oriignalloy to be with their parents, but that failed, and I believe a series of events lead me to parent them. They are as follows:



Eight years of infertiflity, five years waiting for a child in my hoem province.



My career flourished in that time, and I was offered a job in a different city and province.



One month into moving, we enquired about adoption. After erading our profile, skills etc. and our fostering experience, they sped us through our process, and had a match for us.



In the time the children have moved in, the caseworker said she has never seen a match bond and attach so fast. They also said they were shocked at the drastic improvement of my children's so called high needs.



While in a Sweat (spiritual ceremony) earlier this year, I could feel, from the spirit of the earth and the creator that I was meant to meet with my children's birth parent (first mother) and open the adoption a bit more, meeting annually and keeping a scrapbook for my kids and for the first mom. I didn't believe in this before, but after the Sweat I knew what I was supposed to do.



That is it really, so I don't buy that children are born to be adopted to create a family, but I do belive that God or whateve ryou call him/her, does provide opportunities in life to create harmony and restoration, such as me not having children, wanting children, and my children losing their mother, and the opportunity that brought us together.



For all of this, I believe very much that I am guided by the universe in all I di, and this played a large part in my adoption process.



sorry for the ramble and hope this made sense.

Answer 30

Who said God is kind?

Who said God is gentle?

Who said God offer guarantees? ANY guarantees? Health? Wealth? Perfect parents (adopted or biological)? NO!



The problem is, people get GOD confused with Santa Clause



We're all given a set of circumstances to over come, deal with, and make the best of.

Answer 31

LT I don't go around saying to people "God decided this for you..." I won't be saying that to my kids either. My kids aren't baptized...I was baptized as an adult. I felt the choice to follow a Christian faith should be theirs not ours.



Our faith has nothing to with why we chose adoption being of Christian faith. No one in our church urged us to do it. There are single parents in our church too. And no one gets around telling single pregnant girls they can't keep their babies.

There are foster kids that come along... all sorts of people.



I don't like judgmental Christians that think they are holier than anyone else and get around with their little rule books and condemning people because they don't measure up to their ideals...And want to bend people to fit into their square. (I smile and pray for them. Someone has too...)





But that's me. I love people whether they have a faith in a god or not.



Edit; LT, regarding you last comment.



You'lll grow old trying understand some peoples motives in why they do things. Not all Christians are the same, nor all Muslims, Buddhist or Hindu's or whatever belief you follow. There are extremes in all of them, and there are ones that see things in a different light yet still have a faith. Christians are still human, and because of that they aren't perfect, and even people who don't believe in god and Jesus still aren't perfect....when you find the answer let us know.

Answer 32

LT- Everybody has a different perception of god according to their religon, culture and what they grew up understanding(taught by a priest/minister or parent).



As a Hindu, i believe in the Hinduism/Sikhism philosphy .



I don't need my religon and its philosphy mocked here on this forum where i am dead sure i will end up offending people with my scriptures and a Hindu's explanation.And i will get offended by the TD's and remarks about whats sacred to me.



If you do need to chat we can do it in private if you wish.





Corn is not dog food- I love your line " People confuse GOD for Santa Clause". Very well said.





ETA- Just confused with TD- Which part do you disagree with 1) Everybody has different beliefs 2) I am a Hindu 3) I don't want to get mocked on the forum.

Answer 33

Because of all the kids we try to place.They always have to turn to someone right?





Edit:Curently we have a disabled 18 year old.No one seems to want her because of her age.But she never gives up on god.

Answer 34

Some people want to believe that God is justifying their own plans for adopting a child. But, the reality is that adoption is a government social program that also is supported by private interests and public and private money. Grant money is given to child placement agencies. Tax credits are given to adopting individuals. This has nothing to do with God.





The Creator designed the human female to conceive and carry children, and give birth to them. Having given birth myself, I find it hard to believe that God intended for newborn children to be handed over to other, unrelated people, to be raised by them. From a biological standpoint, that makes no sense, unless there is something seriously flawed in the mother, and/or her entire family.



In nature, babies who are separated from their mothers die. Survival is what it is all about.

Answer 35

Thank you So much for this question. ...And, thank you So much for your answer to my question about what it was like to grow up as a foster kid. You are 1 of 4 to have answered (2 e-mailed me instead). 4 out of 4 answers were all negative experiences Sadly, but, you were the Only one to explain. I Greatly appreciated it.



To answer your question, let me start with a story from my past. Before I had my first child, I had 2 dogs, 3 cats, 3 bunnies, a fish, and babysat my in-laws' Mexican parrot at my house for an entire year, though I worked and schooled... Anyhow, the 3 cats had all been strays I had picked up at different times from the middle of nowhere as kittens. I lived on a street in which my house was smack in the middle of a sharp curve, so sharp, you couldn't see what was coming up. I had to keep the cats outside because my mom is allergic and is incredibly sensitive... I was concerned that the cats would get hit by cars due to our living in the middle of the curve,but can you do? Well, I know it sounds Insane, but I did what I could.



During the day, when there was less traffic on our street, and people drove slower, I let the cats roam free. Every evening, however, I called them to dinner, and as they were eating in the back yard, I would clip their leashes on which were attached to a stake just next to some shelter. They never seemed to mind it; it was their routine... and there they slept each night, all night...



I tell this story because of this: If those cats were to ever wonder, if cats do ever wonder, why I "chained" them up at night, do you think they could possibly, with their cat brains, ever figure out the answer? Of course not, but they knew I loved them, so they trusted me without question. We, as mere humans, will never fully comprehend All of God's reasoning, but we do know that he is completely fair, He loves us, and He can be trusted...



You were abused growing up, but aren't you the one who counsels kids in similar situations now? Read the story of Joseph in Genesis (chapters-) 37, 39-48 from the Bible... I, like you, was abused as a child. Only a handful of people know this, but hey, you guys don't know me... My mom has mental issues, so when I was 9, I went to live with my father who had been sexually abused as a child. He ended up wanting me as his "wife!" Yet, he wanted me to desire him, so when he would attempt the "act," it never happened. I lived with him until I was 18. A few years later I realized just how much God had protected me... Sure, I had been touched inappropriately, kissed, etc., but no more than that had occurred in All those years... Anyhow, I have a million life stories that have made me who I am today. God brings good out of bad. I do not believe he "created" evil. It exists, but He brings good out of it and will one day relinquish it for good...



Hope this helps! God bless you!



Also, James 4:13 of the Bible (first number is ch., 2nd is verse- not condescending, just explaining in case you don't know) explains why we say Lord willing. Nothing is for sure in this life. For example, once I was selling my first house, and the first man who was going to buy it and signed a contract was in a horrible motorcycle accident on the way home from seeing my house/ signing that disfigured him for life. So even though he said, "I will surely buy it," that didn't exactly happen.



Knowing what I have learned about you through your answers, I would recommend you reading the entire book of James in the Bible, as it is very short; you can read it in about 15 minutes, and I really think you will appreciate/ enjoy it. Take care!



To all those who have decided that God doesn't exist because he allows evil, let me tell you a little about why I believe with NO DOUBTS:



When I was 5, my mother put me in Christian School for just that year. After that, my family never acted Christian, and I was public schooled. But, it introduced me to faith. I loved God my entire childhood and lived by the golden rule. Thought other children were immature and mean.



Then enter being a teenager. I had friends that became atheists. I had my heart broken one too many times. My dad was trying to still sleep with me, even though he was less attracted to me now that I was no longer a child... I began having doubts about God's existence...



To make this shorter, I'll cut to the chase. God put people/ scenarios in my life to bring me back to my faith. In fact, I no longer live in the world of confusion I once did. Things are perfectly clear to me. It is a new world! I have been born again. God was very merciful to me to Prove His existence, as He has to countless others. A few small miracles, in no particular order:



1. After my divorce (I am now remarried), I had no money because it all went to lawyers, had to sell the house. Put a small sign in front, accidentally wrote the info. in pen that you could barely see, had a buyer that weekend, closed in 2 weeks! (made a profit)



2. Lived with a dad who threatened to rape me every day for 9 years- never got raped. (I never told my mom because I didn't want her to end up in the hospital. She was already so fragile.)



3. When my now husband and I decided to relocate 6 hours away, and we were very strapped for cash, within 2 months we had packed/ sold our old home (when our realtor and everyone thought it would take a year, which we couldn't afford) and bought/ moved into a new one. (made a profit)



4. When I prayed that my daughter would have neighbors that were nice and her age she could play with in the new neighborhood, as she is home-schooled, and the people in our new church all lived too far away, it turned out our next-door neighbor also home-schooled their same age daughter.



5. God put it on my heart to be a foster parent when my 1st child was a baby, but then I got divorced. A few years later, I got re-married to a man who also felt the desire to adopt. Last year, without us even saying anything to my daughter about it, she started telling us she wanted us to adopt a lot of kids. (She learned it from the game of Life.) She still wants us to. We still want to. We're working towards that in God's good timing...

Answer 36

I think this is what they mean but, I am not sure. I think they think that God has a plan for everything and that there is a reason for everything that happens. So I guess if someone gets to adopt they feel it was the will of God.



Love,

Michelle

Answer 37

Well, I was adopted and I feel that because of God's will I was adopted. My bio mother was on cocaine the whole time she was prego with me and then she had me and actually got to keep me for a year....then she tried to kill me by stomping on me which broke just about every bone I have, but because of God I am alive, perfectly healthy mentally and physically. I was put into a foster home and they adopted me and then decided because of financial reasons they could not keep me so I was put up for adoption again at the age of 8. My mother now could not have children and by coincidence of God's will my previous foster parents or adoptive father at that time was the brother of my mother now best friend and that is how I am where I am. And my mother thanks God every day for putting me in her life. It does seem harsh but I really think God has a plan for everything. Even the worse possible scenarios. Religious people view this as God's will, non religious people view this as coincidence.

It is harsh to the mother whom the child was taken from, but in my case my bio mother obviously was not fit to keep me and if she had been allowed then I may be dead. As far as infertility....well that may be cruel, but by infertile, like my mother now she saw her only option was adoption and since so many women do not want their babies or they are taken away the infertile women actually do have a chance. If a child is taken away it is because the state finds them unfit. If a mother is infertile she can adopt a child from a mother who cannot take care of the child or who had to give her baby over to the state because of her poor judgement.

Answer 38

God knows all and he allows things to happen on his time, not ours. We just live in the time...it makes sense if you are a strong believer. If not...it will sound silly, I suppose. I believe that everything happens for a REASON, so maybe thats how you should look at it when people say "God willing" or "If the Lord Allows". Hope it helps...

Answer 39

LT, don't you get it? There is NO god! If there is one, then he doesn't seem like the kind of being that I want to worship, so he can go take a dose of his own medicine and go to hell.

Answer 40

I think the answer is quite simple.



If you truly believe in God, then you will give thanks to God for the good that happens in your life.



If you don't believe, then in your mind, God has no bearing or influence.

Answer 41

here's the facts...because of sin in the world, some women aren't going to get to have children...



it's not fair that bad mothers can have children but good mothers can't...it's just a consequence of sin...adoption is a very good thing...i'm positive that God supports it b/c it's a way for us to help those children who's mothers cared nothing for them or died...it's a way for children to find new parents and parents to have children...what's so difficult to understand about that?